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APNG-060
1995.1.5
Yeon Sang Lee
Subject: APNG Meeting Minutes (1994.11.28-29)
Time: 1994.11.28 (9:00-12:30) & 11.29 (8:30-12:30)
Venue: Tsinghua University, Beijing, China
1. Opening
The APNG meeting was convened at 9:00 on 1994.11.28 at Tsinghua University
in Beijing, China. See Appendix B for the list of participants.
The agenda(APNG-053, or Appendix A) was approved as presented.
The minutes of Prague APNG Meeting (APNG-041) in June 1994 was reviewed and
was approved as presented.
The working group meetings were held in the afternoon of Nov. 28 as follows;
Commercial (Bob Coggeshall)
Developing Countries (Devendra Narayan)
Internationalization/Localization (Masakata Ohta)
The following BoF sessions were held in the evenings.
Education (Shigeki Goto)
Mapping (Glenn Mansfield)
APNIC (David Conrad)
2. Reports
1) Internet Society
Haruhisa Ishida introduced the Internet Society including
BOT(Board of Trustees), IAB(Internet Architecture Board), and
IETF(Internet Engineering Task Force). The venue of INET'95 was
changed to Honolulu in 28-30 June 1995, and the workshops for
developing countries and K12 will he held prior to INET'95.
2) CCIRN
Kilnam Chon briefly introduced CCIRN(Coordinating Committee for
Intercontinental Research Network). The annual CCIRN Meeting is usually
held before/after the INET Conference and each continent(Asia-Pacific,
Europe, and North America) are expected to send seven delegates.
Deligates from the Asia Pacific region for 1995 include K. Chon,
S. Asano, S. Goto, M. Cheng, and others from China, and other countries.
3) PNC
Kilnam Chon introduced the PNC(Pacific Neighborhood Consortium) and
its annual meeting. Its primary concern is the networking information
services. The third PNC Meeting will be held in Bankok in 1995.1.18-20.
For more information on the meeting, refer to the document APNG-059.
3) Japan
(1) IMnet
Shigeki Goto reported on the background, the necessity, and the policy
outline of IMnet(Inter-Ministry Research Information Network).
(2) MITI
Shuichi Tashiro reported on the networking plan of MITI Japan. They have
projects to support Japan-Indonesia, Japan-Singapore, Japan-Australia
links. Installation will be completed in 1995. Their speeds will be
64Kbps~192Kbps. See APNG-065 for further information.
(3) IAJ
Toru Takahashi reported on IAJ(Internet Association of Japan) activities.
It was founded in December, 1993 as an industrial association by
companies and organizations to develop Internet in Japan. There are
several working groups. It also helps many activities of JPNIC, ISOC-JP,
and so forth.
4) Korea
(1) KNC
There was a report on the KNC(Korea Networking Council) by Kilnam Chon.
The name of ANC(Academic Networking Council) was changed to KNC. KNC
coordinates networking activities in Korea. The current network
service providers in Korea are Kornet/Hana, KREN, KREONET, I*NET, Dacom,
and PosData among others.
(2) NCA
Kwan Ho Song presented the organization of NCA(National Computerizing
Agency in Korea). Korea Networking Council has four classes of
committees; KNC Steering Committee, SG-INET, IETF-KR, and KRNET.
KRNIC is also managed by NCA.
5) China
Daoyuan Hu introduced the National Communication Backbone, China's
Communication Infrastructure, CHINAPAC, Digital Data Network, Economic
Information Network(the Golden Projects) and other matters on Internet in
China.
Hualin Qian presented on NCFC, the academic metropolitan area network
in Beijing with the international link funded by SSTC. Xing Li presented
on CERNET(China Education and Research Network). CERNET plans to
provide a backbone network for education and research community in China.
Ministry of Post and Telecommunications and China Unicom also plan to
provide nation-wide services.
6) Singapore
Tommi Chen presented status of Internet services in Singapore.
Technet serves the research and education sector. EDUNET is
operated by the Ministry of Education and serves the school sector.
SINGNET serves the commercial sector and is operated by Singapore
Telecom. The government Internet will interconnect all the government
departments and the Institute of Systems Science will be linked to
Japan soon.
Michelle Chiang reported on the mission and WWW of Technet and Ong Wee
Cheong reported on the current status of Singnet.
7) Hong Kong
Bob Coggeshall presented the Internet links in Hong Kong.
HARNET(Hongkong Academic and Research NETwork) is connected to HKIGS
with T1 and has 128Kbps Satellite connection to NASA Ames which was
upgraded this year. There are two commercial service providers in Hong
Kong. City University of Hong Kong will connect to CERNET in China soon.
8) Taiwan
Wen-Sung Chen reported on the network status of HiNet, TANet, Seednet.
NII Council was created in July 1994. NII Council has four divisions;
resource planning, network construction, application technique and
promotion,and education and basic application.
9) Bridge to Asia
Jeff Smith introduced the ITS(Information-Transfer Stations). It is to
serve users in developing countries in Asia by providing them with access
to information resources.
10) North America
David Conrad made the status report on NAPs, MAE-EAST, SMDS-West
and CIX.
11) APNIC(Asia Pacific Network Information Center)
David Conrad reported on APNIC including the status of current address
The first APNIC Meeting will be held in Bangkok, in 16-17 January 1995.
6. Election of Chairs and Deputy Chairs
Kilnam Chon introduced the brief history of APCCIRN/APNG and presented
the current status of APNG and what to elect(Chair, Deputy Chairs, and
Liaisons).
It is decided to postpone the election until the next meeting in Honolulu
in 30 June 1995, and to have an interim team until the election as follows;
Chair: Kilnam Chon
Seminar: Haruhisa Ishida
Liaison:
CCIRN: Kilnam Chon, Shoichiro Asano, Shigeki Goto
IEPG: Jun Murai
ISOC: Haruhisa Ishida, Shigeki Goto, Jun Murai
APNIC: David Conrad
WG Coordinators:
apng-commercial: Bob Coggeshall
apng-developing Countries: Devendra Narayan
apng-i18n: Masakata Ohta
apng-education: Wen-Sung Chen
BoF Session Coordinators:
Mapping: Glenn Mansfield
Information Infrastructure: Kwan Ho Song
2) Election Working Group was created, and its members include;
Bob Coggeshall (Coordinator)
Devendra Narayan
David Conrad
Michelle Chiang
(Up to ten members will be decided later.)
3) Election WG will define the election procedure over email by 1 February
1995, and let the procedure be approved by 15 February 1995.
4) The election will be held at the next APNG meeting in Honolulu on
30 June 1995.
7. Working Group/BoF Session Meeting Summary
1) Commercial (apng-commercial)
Bob Coggeshall reported on the Commercial WG Meeting.
Country provider reports were made at the meeting and they discussed
on the ILC costs, INET'95 Commercial Programs, CIX, and URLs for Link DB,
which will be made by Tommi Chen.
See the document, APNG-061 for the meeting minutes.
2) Developing Countries (apng-develop)
Devendra Narayan made a report on the Developing Countries WG Meeting.
They discussed about providing more opportunity to attend the Internet
related workshops to members from developing countries. The ideas are to
hold workshops in various region so that the local people can attend,
to provide access to relevant training materials to hold local workshops
on their own, and to send volunteers and assist such workshops.
APNG would collaborate with the group of Bridge to Asia and assist them
to expand useful services to regions in Asia. To help China to establish
satellite earth stations to enable network access in the whole of China,
Glenn Mansfield will collect the information on the experts at Internet
Operations using satellites and relevant information.
During the meeting, it was decided to form the sub-working group on
the specification of Chinese messages in the Internet as follows;
Name: apng-cc@apng.org
Coordinator: Zhu Haifeng/Tsinghua University, Beijing<zhf@net.edu.cn>
To Subscribe: listserv@apng.org
See the document, APNG-062 for the apng-develop meeting minutes.
3) Internationalization/Localization (apng-i18n)
Masakata Ohta reported on the Internarionalization/Localization WG
Meeting. The discussion was made on the Chinese character processing at
the meeting. They also discussed about the name change of the working
group without any conclusion from the meeting.
See the document, APNG-063 for the meeting minutes.
4) Education (apng-education)
Shigeki Goto reported on the Education BoF Meeting.
The discussion was on the K-12 workshop in INET'95. They decided to
try effort to send at least one school teacher from each region to
the K-12 workshop of INET'95.
See the document, APNG-064 for the meeting minutes.
5) Mapping
Shuichi Tashiro reported on the Mapping BoF Meeting on behalf of Glenn
Mansfield, who chaired the BoF session on the mapping.
They will start their mailing list with the name mapping@apng.org
and discuss about the mapping Internet further.
6) II(Information Infrastructure)
Kwan Ho Song was requested to coordinate the II BoF Session.
Kwan Ho Song from Korea, Yusheng Ji from Japan, and Wen-Sung Chen from
Taiwan made brief presentations on the NII in their regions.
8. Related Meetings
Kilnam Chon presented the related meeting schedules including
INET, CCIRN, IETF, Interop, and Internet World .
9. Next Meetings
Future APNG Meetings will be held as follows.
1995.6.30-7.1 Honolulu(after INET'95)
1995.1 Singapore
1996.6 Montreal(after INET'96)
1997.1 Hong Kong
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APNG-053
1994.11.25
Kilnam Chon
APPENDIX A: Agenda for APNG Meetings in Beijing, 1994.11.28-29
1. General Meeting (Mornings of 11.28, and 29)
Agenda
Minutes Review
Election of Chairs and Deputy Chairs
Working Group Overview
apng-commercial
apng-develop
apng-i18n
Reports
Internet Society(BoT, IAB, IETF, INET)
Meetings(CCIRN, IEPG, PNC,...)
Country/Region/Network
Organizations(APNG Secretariat, APNIC)
Host Country Report(China)
Working Group Meeting Summary
Education/K12 Issues
Information Infrastructure Issues
Connectivity(NAP, GIX,..) Issues
Next Meetings
2. Working Group Meetings(Afternoon of 11.28, Monday)
Commercial(apng-commecial) 13:00 - 18:00
Developing Countries(apng-develop) 13:00 - 15:30
Internationalization/Localization(apng-i18n) 16:00 - 18:00
Remarks:
There will be APNG Seminars in 1994.11.26-27(prior to APNG Meetings).
APNG Meetings starts at 9:00 on 1994.11.28, and finish at 13:00 on
1994.11.29.
Working Group Meetings will be held in parallel.
There may be BoF sessions during the APNG Meetings. Let me know if
you would like to hold the session.
There is the joint meeting of China and APNG in Monday(14:00-16:00).
Some of the APNG participants are invited to participate the meeting.
There are visits to local institutions such as Tsinghua University,
and possibly Peking University and Academia Sinica. We will provide
further information on Monday.
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APNG-052
1995.1.4
Yeon Sang Lee
APPENDIX B: List of Participants to APNG Meeting in 1994.11.28-29(Draft)
China
Tianbai Qian(ICA) <tbqian@ns.cnc.ac.cn>
Daoyuan Hu(Tsinghua University) <hdy@tsinghua.edu.cn>
Shoukui Ren(Peking Univeristy) <ccren@pku.edu.cn>
Hualin Qian(Academia Sinica) <hlqian@ns.cnc.ac.cn>
Jianping Wu(CERNET) <jianping@cernet.edu.cn>
Xing Li(CERNET) <xing@cernet.edu.cn>
Yue You(CERNET) <youyue@cernet.edu.cn>
Ming Lu(Tsinghua University) <luming@tsinghua.edu.cn>
Susan S. Zhu(Tsinghua University) <szhu@cernet.edu.cn>
Baojue Chen(Peking University)
Xinggang Wang
Qiming Li
Xiaoguo Dong
Yunjie Liu
Xiaofan Zhao(China Unicom) +86-1-8271703(Fax)
Xiaoling Teng(Peking University) <ccteng@pku.edu.cn>
Lin Yang
Weigang Yue
Ban Chen
WAN Jun(MPT) +86-1-2053995(Fax)
YANG Xi-fen(MPT) +86-1-6011250(Fax)
WANG Guo-xing(Fudan University) +86-21-8749221(Fax)
Hong Kong
Che-Hoo Cheng(CUHK) <chehoocheng@cuhk.hk>
Wendy Lin(HK Supernet) <Lin.Wendy@HK.Super.NET>
Bob Coggeshall(Cogwheel) <coggs@HK.Super.NET>
Lawrence Law(HKUST) <cclaw@usthk.ust.hk>
Raymond Poon(CPHK) <ccrpoon@cphkvx.cphk.hk>
Chi Yuen Kwok(CPHK) <cccykwok@cphkvx.cphk.hk>
Lau Sai Yiu <sylau@hk.net>
Aaron Y.T. CHEUNG <aaron@hk.net>
LUNG Tzong Hann <thlung@hk.net>
Pui Tak Ho(Hong Kong University) <hcxchpt@hkucc.hku.hk>
LEE Chun Yip <cylee@synergie.com>
Kinming Fung <kin@axp400b.csc.cuhk.hk>
William Yeung
Leung Kin-wing(HK Baptist University) <joel@ctsc.hkbc.hk>
Japan
Shigeki Goto(NTT) <goto@ntt-20.ntt.jp>
Shuichi Tashiro(ETL) <tashiro@etl.go.jp>
Masaki Hirabaru(AIST-Nara) <hi@is.aist-nara.ac.jp>
Haruhisa Ishida(Tokyo University) <ishida@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Toshifumi Matsumoto(ATT Jens/Spin) <toshif@sys.attjens.co.jp>
Masataka Ohta(TIT) <mohta@cc.titech.ac.jp>
Toru Takahashi(IAJ/Interop/Tokyo Internet) <toru@interop.co.jp>
Devendra Narayan(SUT) <narayan@sut.ac.jp>
Tom Agoston(IBM) <agoston@vnet.IBM.COM>
Glenn Mansfield(AIC) <glenn@aic.co.jp>
Tatsuo Kaida(SINET) <tk@sinet.ad.jp>
Yusheng Ji(NACSIS) <kei@rd.nacsis.ac.jp>
Suguru Yamaguchi(WIDE/JEPG/IP) <suguru@is.aist-nara.ac.jp>
Tojo Iwao(Tokyo Internet) <tojo@suri.co.jp>
Shinji Umeyama
Hiroshi Fukaishi(Suri Giken)
David R. Conrad(IIJ/APNIC) <davidc@iij.ad.jp>
Atsuko Okasumi(NTT) <oka@nttspe.ntt.jp>
Yuichi Suzuki(Secom) <ysuzuki@secom-sis.co.jp>
Akira Tasiro(Fujitsu) <aki@web.ad.jp>
Mizuho Mori(SUT)
Riku Raky(Keio University)
Korea
Kilnam Chon(KAIST) <chon@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr>
Kwan Ho Song(NCA) <khsong@hen.nca.go.kr>
Yeon Sang Lee(KAIST/APNG-Sec) <apng-sec@krnic.net>
Mongolia
D. Enkhbat <enkhbat@magic.igc.apc.org>
Singapore
Michelle Chiang(Technet) <michelle@solomon.technet.sg>
Tommy Chen(NetCenter/Technet) <tommi@solomon.technet.sg>
Hock-Koon Lim <lim@ctron.com>
Liew Lai Kuen(Singnet/Singapore Telecom) <lkong@singnet.com.sg>
Taiwan
Yu-Hsuan Chen(TWNIC) <candy@moers2.edu.tw>
Albert Liou(SEEDNET) <liou@iiidns.iii.org.tw>
Wen-sung Chen(MoE) <wschen@moers2.edu.tw>
USA
Gene C. Choy(CISCO) <gchoy@cisco.com>
Jeff Smith(Bridge to Asia) <jasmith@well.sf.ca.us>