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From nakayama@is.apnic.net  Thu Sep  2 09:03:20 1993
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 08:58:30 +0900
From: Masaya NAKAYAMA <nakayama@nic.ad.jp>
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Subject: (APNIC-ALL  1) Announcemnt from a staff of APNIC pilot project
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Dear Sirs.

I'm sorry too late to setup our mailing list for APNIC pilot project
on apnic.net.

I prepare three kinds of mailing list on this machine.

apnic-all@apnic.net:
All members who are interested in APNIC pilot project.
It also includes members listed in apnic-all@nic.nm.kr.
(apnic-all@nic.nm.kr includes apnic-all@nic.ad.jp)

apnic-member@apnic.net:
Actual APNIC pilot project members.
It includes NIC persons and/or network providers who can
coordinate thier own country.

apnic-staff@apnic.net:
It includes the staff of this pilot project.
Currentry 4 members listed in JPNIC/APNIC proposal
is included.

However the attendance at APCCIRN meeting held in SF know the APNIC
pilot project proposal, I think some members in this list do not know
them. The following material is the reviced version of APNIC pilot
project proposal.

Prof. Murai should announce this matter, but he is still in USA.
So I will forward it to this list. Please contact with me if you
cannot contact with him.

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Asia Pacific Network Information Center Pilot Project

1. Introduction

In order to continue the effort of coordinating the various regional
Network Information Centers and other organizations involved in
Internetworking in the Asia Pacific region, this document proposes a
pilot project to implement an Asia Pacific Network Information Center.

1.1 Purpose

This pilot project proposes to provide a testbed for experimentation
into the area of network coordination in the Asia Pacific region.  The
areas of study will include IP address allocation strategies,
coordination with other regional NICs and NCCs such as the InterNIC
and RIPE NCC, determination of the requirements and means to fulfill
those requirements for the operation of the APNIC, and experimentation
with various software tools used for coordinating various aspects of
Internetworking interactions.

1.2 Scope

This pilot project, coordinated under the auspices of the APCCIRN, is
intended to provide network coordination services to the Asia Pacific
region in an experimental fashion.  Further action in terms of APNIC
support and continuation of the services provided by the APNIC will be
dependent upon lessons learned during the pilot project.

1.3 Duration

The APNIC pilot project will operate for up to 10 months, starting on
September 1, 1993.

1.4 Reporting

The personnel involved in the APNIC pilot project will produce 2
reports for the APCCIRN.  The first will be a mid-term report,
presented during the Winter, 1993 APCCIRN meeting, and the other will
be a final report which will be presented during the Summer, 1994
APCCIRN meeting.

2. Functions

For the purposes of this pilot project, the functions performed by the
APNIC can be broken up into two broad categories.  Ordered by
priority, they are:

1) Internet Registry
2) Routing Registry

Other functions typically performed by Network Information Centers, such
as information provision and direct user support are beyond the scope of
this pilot project.

2.1 Internet Registry Functions

The Internet Registry category includes such services as allocating
IP addresses as a designated regional Internet Registry, organizing
and maintaining a "White Pages" of network points of contact, and
of lesser priority for this pilot project, maintaining a database
of DNS delegations for network name lookup.

2.2 Routing Registry Functions

The routing registry category describes those functions which have
been pinpointed as necessary for maintenance and support of routing
issues in the global Internet.  These issues include maintaining a
database of routing policies and, when the need exists in the Internet
at large, organizing and maintaining a database of CIDR aggregations.

3. Requirements

The requirements for this pilot project are broken down into
four categories:  funding, hardware, software, and personnel.

3.1 Funding

All funding for the APNIC pilot project will be derived from JPNIC
resources.  The JPNIC has committed 10% of its resources to fulfill
the APNIC funding requirements.  During the pilot project,
investigation of other avenues of funding for continuation of the
services provided by the APNIC will be undertaken.

3.2 Hardware

For the purposes of this pilot project, the hardware requirements will
be limited to a single workstation class computer with sufficient disk
and network capacity to fulfill the needs of the project.  JPNIC has
agreed to share the use of its machines for the APNIC pilot.

3.3 Software

The APNIC pilot project will require software to create and maintain
the databases for both the Internet Registry functions and the Routing
Registry functions.  

The software for the Internet Registry functions will consist of
database and other software that will allow the process of allocating
and registering IP addresses to be made as automatic as possible.
JPNIC has indicated that software written and used by JPNIC for the
maintenance of the Japanese Internet registry will be available for
use for the APNIC pilot project and it is assumed that software
packages from other NICs and NCCs may also be used.

In terms of software for the routing registry functions of this pilot
project, the RIPE NCC routing registry tools will be used. 

3.4 Personnel

The personnel requirements for this project have been broken down
as follows:

0.25 FTE Managerial support
0.50 FTE Technical support
1.00 FTE Administrative support

These personnel requirements will be fulfilled by drawing from the
resources of JPNIC as well as other interested parties.  Specifically,
the following personnel have indicated their interest in contributing
to this pilot project:

Masaki Hirabaru, Kyushu University
Taeha Park, KAIST
Masaya Nakayama, University of Tokyo
David Conrad, Internet Initiative Japan, Inc.

Since the APNIC will be involved in regional networking issues, it is
hoped that other members of the Asia Pacific networking community will
be able to contribute to this pilot project.

4.  Conclusion

This document outlines a proposal for the establishment of an Asia
Pacific Network Information Center which will investigate the
requirements for the operation of a network information center in the
Asia Pacific region.  The pilot project will start on September 1 and
will operate for up to 10 months, will concentrate on Internet and
routing registry functions, and will produce two reports for the
APCCIRN.  It is hoped this pilot project will provide information
which may be of help in establishing a permanent network information
center in the Asia Pacific Region.

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From nakayama@is.apnic.net  Thu Sep  2 10:54:07 1993
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 10:48:28 +0900
From: Masaya NAKAYAMA <nakayama@nic.ad.jp>
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I put the following members in apnic-all@apnic.net.

G.Huston@aarnet.edu.au
# New Zeeland
j.houlker@waikato.ac.nz
# Korea
ohbyeon@garam.kreonet.re.kr
taeha@nic.nm.kr
# Thai
phon@nwg.nectec.or.th
cheng@nwg.nectec.or.th
kk@cs.ait.ac.th
# Taiwan
qianhl%bepc2@scs.slac.stanford.edu
# Singapore
milton@solomon.technet.sg
# Japan
asaba@iij.ad.jp
davidc@iij.ad.jp
matsumoto@spin.ad.jp
nakayama@nic.ad.jp
goto@ntt-20.ntt.jp
akiko@nacsis.ac.jp
jm@eng.isas.ac.jp
asano@nacsis.ac.jp
# CAREN
narayan@caren.net
# Others
matsuzaki@vnet.ibm.com
akazawa@who.ch
# ken@dss.com
apnic-all@nic.nm.kr
################################
hi@nic.ad.jp
jun@wide.ad.jp
ikoh@halla.dacom.co.kr
taeha@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr
gih@aarnet.edu.au
w.teahan@waikato.ac.nz
nznic@waikato.ac.nz
ftya@chulkn.chula.ac.th
phon@nwg.nectec.or.th
rafee@jaring.ism.my
philip-leung@cuhk.hk
chehoocheng@cuhk.hk
From nakayama@is.apnic.net  Thu Sep  2 11:16:38 1993
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In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1993 10:48:28 JST."
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 11:11:49 +0900
From: Masaya NAKAYAMA <nakayama@nic.ad.jp>
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Subject: (APNIC-ALL  3) Re: (APNIC-ALL 2) members list in this ML 
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Sorry, I did miss operation in MH. And sent incomplete message.

>> I put the following members in apnic-all@apnic.net.
>> 
>> apnic-all@nic.nm.kr

I think some members get duplicate messages. Because I just put
apnic-all@nic.nm.kr in the list and I do not know your alias name.

1. If you get duplicate messages from apnic-all@apnic.net,
   please let me know which is the duplicate entry.

2. We cannot reach pluto.dss.com. And I just commented out
   the following entry.

>> # ken@dss.com

3. I got the message from daemon@chulkn.chuula.ac.th as follows.

|------------------------- Message log follows: -------------------------|
 no valid recipients were found for this message
|------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------|
 <ftya@chulkn.chula.ac.th> ... unknown user
|------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------|

If you know the new address for "Y. Teng-amnuay", please let me know it.

4. If you know the right persons who shuld entry apnic-member@apnic.net,
   please send their address to apnic-staff@apnic.net.

Thanks.